Obama a socialist?

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This morning, I got caught up in a casual discussion of politics with a coworker of allegedly* "eclectic" political opinions who claimed--in all seriousness--to be unable to vote for Obama "because he's a socialist."

<picks self up from floor, and jaw from lap>

First, I doubt seriously that many (most?) conservatives even know what socialism is; "socialist" is just another content-free slur (like "liberal") that is used to demonize political opponents. They neither know what it means nor care to learn, as that knowledge would deprive them of a useful rhetorical cudgel when dealing with others equally (or more) ignorant of economics.

Second, Obama is most definitely not a socialist. In addition to his largely common-sense economic proposals, and his center-right economic advisers, here's what he said in an interview with CNBC's John Harwood:

"I am a pro-growth, free market guy. I love the market. I think it is the best invention to allocate resources and produce enormous prosperity for America or the world that's ever been designed."

Obama is as much as socialist as Adam Smith, but you certainly won't learn that from the mainstream corporate media. I really wish people would get their heads out of Faux News' ass...the constant GOP genuflecting is execrable, and the view stinks. (One might call their propaganda "Effluent for the Affluent.")


links:
Snopes doesn't have a page on the "Obama=Socialist" myth yet, but they should

Obama's Fight the Smears site should also debunk this myth


*This was an overstatement on my part. Our disagreements consistently begin when I debunk the errors of right-wing talking points, which suggests--but does not prove--ideological rigidity.

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LOL. Oh my.

When somebody starts criticizing your vocabulary, I immediately flash to Mike Judge's "Idiocracy." You probably know what I'm talking about. If somebody even sounds smart, the usual reply is, "You talk like a fag."

Like this line, erm, spoken by a doctor:

"Doctor: [Laughs] Right, kick ass. Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded. What I'd do, is just like... like... you know, like, you know what I mean, like.."

You just proved my point. You are incapable of not being arrogant. Thanks for the dissertation, proselytizing, history lessons, corrections, overview on my methodology,chest-thumping, and any number of attempts to make your learned points. Gee, I thought you would simply apologize for putting our personal conversation on the web. Silly me.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true
Hey [redacted],
Big vocabulary words do not make a good writer. I learned that from my best teacher, God rest her soul. (Sorry for the God reference - I know that offends you.) I also learned that a condescending and patronizing tone typically masks major insecurities. I suggest therapy or volunteer work. That said, I know that you consider yourself the intellectual superior of everyone with whom you interact. If you want to believe that, then do. If it makes you happy, then enjoy your fantasy. You seem to derive great pleasure in your quasi-intellectual put-downs of those of us who are, in your mind, mental midgets. I personally do not like being the subject of one of your link-filled, pompously presented, incredibly bombastic blogs, but since I didn't know that our private conversation would end up as fodder for the world to see, I suppose I will just suck it up and move on. Your sarcastic appraisal of me and my "eclectic", oh wait, "allegedly eclectic" political opinions and anyone who does not share your abject hatred of GWB, is so noted. I get it. In your mind, which you religiously showcase at every opportunity (again, sorry for the religion reference) you truly believe that you are so cerebrally gifted that the rest of us plebeians can but marvel at how many $5 words you can use in one sentence. I find it laughable that someone thinks that his writings are just SO IMPORTANT that we are all waiting breathlessly for the next installment. Teach us, oh great one. We hang on every word, for you, and only you, have all the answers. Your ego is just amazing. I hope you teach [redacted] that just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are necessarily idiots. And, be sure to tell [redacted] that the phrase "useful rhetorical cudgel" is a perfect example of poor writing--and it is plagiarized. I guarantee you that despite your extensive vocabulary, you would flunk any creative writing course due to your excessive use of big words to the detriment of your unquestioned ability to make a cogent point. Just say what you mean instead of using this forum to feed your egotistical need to impress all of us mental deficients with your robust list of vocabulary words. I am not impressed. So, I suppose your insatiable need to promote yourself and once again let the world know just how smart [redacted] is, will result in another one of your incredibly tiresome displays of [redacted] platitudes. Have at it. If it makes you feel good about yourself, I can live with it. I get paid for my writing. Who's the idiot in this scenario? Have a wonderful day and God Bless America. (Oops! Another God reference. Just can't help myself!)

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